The pseudonym "Philo Vaihinger" has been abandoned. All posts have been and are written by me, Joseph Auclair.

Saturday, October 22, 2016

It is the Republicans who are trying to "rig" the election by interference with voting

Pennsylvania GOP Files Federal Lawsuit To Allow Out-Of-County Poll Watchers

Nobody can watch you actually vote.

If you are not voting for the first time at your polling place no one can ask for identification, and in any case only officials could do that.

(But see below.)

We use computerized voting in Mt Lebanon, PA, so I don't know just what there is to watch that pertains to counting; it's not like there are going to be a lot of hanging chads.

Do they want to stand around outside the buildings and gawk at the lines of voters?

I really have no idea how this is supposed to relate to any sort of feared fraud.

Just looks like bullshit and posturing, to me.

And maybe a dash of voter intimidation, if they try to lurk menacingly at polling places.

Half of Republicans would reject election result if Clinton wins: Reuters/Ipsos

And these Republicans are stupid, lying, or both.

But these Democrats aren't much better.

Only half of Republicans would accept Clinton, the Democratic nominee, as their president. 

And if she wins, nearly 70 percent said it would be because of illegal voting or vote rigging, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.

Conversely, seven out of 10 Democrats said they would accept a Trump victory and less than 50 percent would attribute it to illegal voting or vote rigging, the poll showed.

Extraordinary.

Can Pro-Trump Poll Watchers Disrupt Voting In Pennsylvania?

This simply shocks me.

What crackpots, to write laws like this.

This is just an atrocity.

Did you need another reason to hate Republicans?

Imagine somebody at your polling place, somebody you've never seen before in your life and who is not even from the same county as you, pointing you out in line and calling over an election official to challenge your right to vote at that polling place.

I have lived at my current address and voted at my polling place for nearly twenty years.

Imagine how much this jackass harassment would piss me off.

This is worse, much worse, than being asked by an official for a photo ID.

Pretty nearly everybody has some form of photo ID.

But what if none of your neighbors who actually know you, at least by sight, is in the polling place at the time?

As the Politico piece notes, a provision in the state election code provides that any poll watcher or other voter in the polling place at the time can challenge the identity or residency of someone showing up to vote.

And, in such a circumstance, the law requires the challenged voter to sign an affidavit attesting to his or her identity and residence, and to find a witness from the precinct who can also sign an affidavit vouching for the voter's identity.


According to Pennsylvania Deputy Secretary of State Marian Schneider, there's case law that says there must be a rational basis for a voter challenge. 

If the voter doesn't sign the affidavit or find a witness, she noted, he or she can vote by provisional ballot.

The truth is it takes a lot of effort to recruit hundreds of people, train them, and dispatch them to unfamiliar polling places to challenge voters en masse. 

But Howard Cain, who was a Democratic field operative for 25 years, says mass challenges aren't really about disqualifying voters.

"You don't have to be successful in these challenges," he said. 

"You just have to create enough confusion and temporary chaos at a polling place so that people go, 'I'm not going to stay here and put up with this nonsense, I'm out of here.' That's what the real goal is."

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